Public Project Meeting - January 28, 2021
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Continuing the series of bi-weekly public project meetings, here is the timeline of the meeting held on January 28, 2021,5:30 PM CET.(Below times are on IST)
Meetings are held on the #selenium-tlc channel on Selenium Slack.
Diego Molina 9:17 PM
Yes, here is the short agenda:
- General project statistics (Previous meeting: 262 open issues, 54 open PRs, Current: 252, 35 PRs)
- Overall announcements? New people on committees, with the commit bit, etc?
- Pending work that needs to be done for the first Beta?
- CoC, next steps?
Alexei Barantsev 9:44 PM
can the Bot drop the meeting link to the chat, please, I always forget where to get it…
Diego Molina 9:53 PM
this is the written one
Alexei Barantsev 9:58 PM
awesome! I’m in yet I have nothing to add to the agenda
Diego Molina 10:01 PM
sounds good I’ll ping people around and we can wait a couple of minutes, Simon said he was going to be slightly late
10:02 PM
@titusfortner @jimevans @mmerrell @manoj9788 @AutomatedTester @harsha509 @luke
Jim Evans 10:03 PM
i’m not going to be able to make the video chat, but i can contribute here if people have questions. the only thing missing from .NET for beta1 is making CDP work via remote, which i don’t think needs to be in beta1 for .NET.
Diego Molina 10:06 PM
this is just the written one, the video chat is just to hangout, that one is next week
Marcus Merrell 10:06 PM
no status chance on the Chicago conference at this point - still looking at COVID numbers to determine whether or not it’s going to be feasible
David Burns 10:07 PM
here! sorry
Diego Molina 10:07 PM
Marcus are we still looking into an online event, Marcus?
Marcus Merrell 10:07 PM
we can look into that haven’t been to this point
Diego Molina 10:08 PM
I only ask because (I think) it was mentioned last time ok, perhaps we can start, the first topic is: Overall announcements? New people on committees, with the commit bit, etc?
10:10 PM
Aside from @luke joining recently, there are no more things to announce, right?
Sri Harsha 10:10 PM
I think luke joined recently!
Simon Stewart 10:10 PM
Nothing that I can think off
Alexei Barantsev 10:12 PM
I support @diemol’s appeal to focus attention to the issue tracker. let’s try to clean it up in view of the forthcoming v.4 release
10:13
close all outdated issues and PRs, apply everything that worth applying
Diego Molina 10:13 PM
the work done during the recent week on the issue tracker has been great, hopefully we keep that going
10:14 PM
we could jump into the next topic perhaps… Pending work that needs to be done for the first Beta? here is the list I have from the last meeting
10:15 PM
Client facing changes:
- Make relative locators return elements sorted by proximity
- Fix Java Module System problems (I think @simonstewart did this already)
- Allow locator strategies to be pluggable Enable fallbacks for commands
Server changes:
- Enable retries of commands where necessary using failsafe
- Get the Grid UI looking nice, and returning useful data (@diemol is working on this)
- Allow locator strategies to be pluggable
- Pipe VNC connectors through the websocket plumbing for live video
Simon Stewart 10:15 PM
Relative locators now sort by proximity I think the Java Module stuff is working I’m working on fallbacks for locators
Alexei Barantsev 10:15 PM
I can confirm that java 9 modules are usable now
Simon Stewart 10:16 PM
Locator strategies are pluggable on the server side Once I get the locator strategies falling back on the local end, I’m fine with shipping the beta
Diego Molina 10:17 PM
we had some issue reports related to the Grid, in most of the cases it is a matter of showing the correct information on the UI and I am working on that
Simon Stewart 10:18 PM
Also there’s a nasty issue with starting a large number of sessions concurrently
Diego Molina 10:18 PM
yeah, I was going to point that one out, https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/issues/9112 I have not had time to research enough, but most of the results when googling point to: either we are creating too many Netty clients or something is wrong with the way the client is created
David Burns 10:20 PM
Feel free to pull in @Puja Jagani on the sessions one, I know she was looking at one about starting up a grid and things not working
10:20 PM
(can’t remember the issue #)
Diego Molina 10:20 PM
that’d be great, I can sync with @Puja Jagani later what do you all estimate for a beta release? 3-4 weeks?
Simon Stewart 10:21 PM
Maybe less
Diego Molina 10:23 PM
ok, I think we do not have more things pending for beta 1? the only topic left is the CoC New
Titus Fortner 10:24 PM
Is this a good time/forum to ask about wiki/docs?
Diego Molina 10:24 PM
always
Titus Fortner 10:25 PM
Diego pointed me at a couple issues @AutomatedTester created for docs & wiki cleanup things did we have an idea for what we want in the language specific wiki page vs in the docs; and user vs developer focused? The Ruby wiki stuff is way out of date, not even just Selenium 4 things :) just want to know where we should be cleaning it up to
Diego Molina 10:28 PM
are those two different things? language specific things and dev docs? (people who want to contribute to Selenium, what technical steps to follow?)
David Burns 10:28 PM
CoC is still waiting on SFC. New
Titus Fortner 10:29 PM
What we did with Watir was to make the wiki about things devs need to know about the project building/deploying, etc and everything user related went into the documentation oh, heh, looks like we ended up deleting the wiki and sending everything to the website
Diego Molina 10:32 PM
Why do we need a language bindings specific things on the user docs? Do they differ too much on how they work?
Titus Fortner 10:33 PM
So our current documentation has tabs to show the examples in each of the languages the wiki is currently just a big page of examples for using Ruby Selenium (https://github.com/SeleniumHQ/selenium/wiki/Ruby-Bindings)
10:37
I guess I haven’t spent much time with the docs anyway, so maybe I should play around and see what makes sense. Didn’t know if anyone else had opinions on any of it. :) Guess not
Diego Molina 10:38 PM
ah ok, that Wiki seems to be duplicating the user docs but some parts of the Wiki could evolve to be part of the user docs
Titus Fortner 10:39 PM
yeah, it’s 2 approaches to organization as well; here’s everything in ruby, vs here’s everything, click the tab for each to see the ruby.
Diego Molina 10:39 PM
I think the 2nd could work well someone needs to take the time and take the contents of that Wiki and put them in the docs
Titus Fortner 10:39 PM
I’ll take a look at what might make sense since now that I no longer have any looming work pressing things for the first time in forever
Diego Molina 10:40 PM
cool thank you
I think that was it for today, right?
Thank you everyone!
